Polled vs Horned Cattle: Genetics, Safety, and Market Impact

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Cattle Daily — Genetics & Management Guide 2026

Polled vs Horned Cattle: Genetics, Safety, and Market Impact

Updated June 2026  |  13-Minute Read  |  Livestock Genetics Expert Reviewed

Quick Summary

Whether cattle grow horns is determined by a single, well-understood gene — and that one genetic switch carries outsized consequences for handler safety, animal welfare, facility design, transport logistics, and sale-barn pricing. Polled (naturally hornless) cattle have become the commercial default in North American beef production, but horned genetics persist in heritage breeds, some maternal lines, and operations that value specific horned-breed traits enough to manage the trade-offs. This guide breaks down exactly how the polled gene works and is inherited, the real injury and safety data behind the horn debate, the dollar-for-dollar market discount horned cattle face at sale, and the practical decision framework for choosing polled genetics, dehorning, or living with horns in a 2026 cattle operation.

1. The Polled Gene: How Horn Inheritance Actually Works

Whether a calf grows horns is determined primarily by a single genetic locus — the POLLED locus on bovine chromosome 1 — making horn status one of the most genetically straightforward traits in all of cattle production, and one of the easiest to select for with predictable results.

Chr. 1
Location of the POLLED locus — a single genetic region controls horn growth in nearly all cattle breeds studied to date
Dominant
Inheritance pattern of the polled allele — a single copy from either parent is sufficient to produce a hornless calf
$15–$40
Per-head dehorning cost across labor, equipment, and pain management — a recurring expense polled genetics eliminate entirely
$3–$8/cwt
Typical sale-barn price discount applied to horned feeder cattle compared to comparable polled or dehorned lots

The polled trait is inherited as a simple dominant allele over the recessive horned allele — meaning a calf needs only one copy of the polled gene (from either the sire or the dam) to be born without horns. A horned calf, by contrast, must inherit the recessive horned allele from both parents. This straightforward Mendelian inheritance pattern is what makes polled genetics one of the most predictable and rapidly fixable traits available to cattle breeders through selective sire choice.

2. POLLED Celtic vs Friesian Alleles Explained

Modern genomic research has revealed that the polled trait is not caused by one single mutation but by at least two distinct, independently arising mutations at the same chromosomal location — each with practical implications for breeders working with different breed backgrounds.

Celtic Polled Allele Pc
Origin The dominant polled mutation found in British and most Continental European breeds — Angus, Hereford, Galloway, and the majority of polled Continental breeds carry this allele. Genetic Structure A duplication-insertion mutation on chromosome 1 that disrupts horn bud development. This is the allele responsible for naturally polled Angus, which has been polled for the entire history of the breed. Practical Note The most common and best-characterized polled allele in North American commercial cattle; the basis for most commercial DNA polled genotyping tests.
Friesian Polled Allele Pf
Origin A separate, independently arising polled mutation identified in Holstein-Friesian dairy cattle — important as the dairy industry increasingly adopts polled genetics to eliminate routine dehorning in dairy calves. Genetic Structure A distinct DNA sequence variant at the same general chromosomal region as the Celtic allele but molecularly different — confirming that polledness has evolved independently more than once in cattle. Practical Note Relevant primarily for dairy producers and any beef-dairy crossbreeding programs; genomic tests must check for both alleles to accurately determine polled status and zygosity.
Scurs — The Genetic Wild Card Modifier Gene
What Scurs Are Small, loosely attached horn-like growths that can appear in cattle that are genetically polled but carry a separate "scurs" modifier gene — most commonly seen in polled bulls and in crosses between polled and horned breeds. Why They Happen Scurs result from incomplete dominance interactions between polled and horned alleles at the modifier locus — they are not a sign that the polled genetics "failed," but a separate, less predictable genetic phenomenon layered on top of the primary polled gene. Practical Note Scurs are usually small and loosely attached (unlike true horns which are firmly fused to the skull) and rarely pose the same safety or handling concern as full horns, though large scurs occasionally require trimming.

3. Breeding for Polled: Practical Genetics

Because the polled trait is simply inherited and dominant, breeders can predict offspring horn status with reasonable confidence using parental genotype information — making this one of the most straightforward traits to deliberately select for in a breeding program.

Sire Genotype Dam Genotype Expected Calf Outcome Practical Implication
Homozygous Polled (PP) Horned (pp) 100% polled calves (all Pp) Guaranteed polled offspring — the most reliable mating for converting a horned herd
Homozygous Polled (PP) Heterozygous Polled (Pp) 100% polled calves (50% PP, 50% Pp) Guaranteed polled offspring; advances herd toward homozygous polled status
Heterozygous Polled (Pp) Heterozygous Polled (Pp) 75% polled, 25% horned Most common commercial scenario; some horned calves still expected
Heterozygous Polled (Pp) Horned (pp) 50% polled, 50% horned Coin-flip outcome; DNA testing the sire's zygosity is valuable before using broadly
Horned (pp) Horned (pp) 100% horned calves No polled genetics present; dehorning will be required if polled calves are wanted
Why DNA Testing for Polled Zygosity Matters: A bull that is visually polled could be either homozygous polled (PP) or heterozygous polled (Pp) — and these two genotypes produce very different results when bred to horned or heterozygous cows. A homozygous polled bull guarantees polled calves regardless of the cow's genotype; a heterozygous polled bull only guarantees polled calves when paired with another homozygous polled animal, and produces a meaningful percentage of horned calves otherwise. Commercial DNA testing for polled zygosity (widely available through major genomic testing labs) costs $20–$40 per animal and removes the guesswork — seedstock producers marketing "polled" bulls should be able to provide zygosity test results, and commercial buyers purchasing bulls specifically to eliminate horns in their calf crop should request this documentation.

4. Dehorning vs Genetically Polled: The Real Comparison

For operations currently working with horned genetics, the practical choice is between continuing to dehorn calves each year or investing in a multi-year genetic transition toward polled bloodlines. Both approaches solve the horn problem, but they differ substantially in cost structure, animal welfare impact, and timeline.

The Recurring Cost of Dehorning vs the One-Time Cost of Genetic Selection: Dehorning is a recurring annual expense — every horned calf born requires the procedure, the labor, the equipment, and carries some degree of pain, stress, infection risk, and growth check regardless of how well it is performed. Across a 100-cow herd producing 90 horned calves annually for 10 years, dehorning costs accumulate to $13,500–$36,000 over that decade (using the $15–$40/head range), not counting the labor time, occasional complications, or the welfare cost that increasingly matters to consumers and certification programs. Converting to polled genetics through deliberate bull selection costs nothing extra beyond normal bull purchase price — polled bulls are widely available at price parity with horned bulls in most breeds — and within 3–4 generations of consistent polled-sire selection, a herd can be effectively converted to polled with dehorning no longer required at all. The genetic route has a multi-year transition period but eliminates the recurring cost and welfare burden permanently.

5. Dehorning Methods Compared

For producers maintaining horned genetics or transitioning a herd, understanding the available dehorning methods and their relative animal welfare and labor profiles is essential for making the procedure as low-stress and effective as possible.

Method Ideal Age Pain Level (Unmanaged) Equipment Notes
Chemical Paste 0–7 days Moderate — caustic burn Caustic paste, gloves, protective barrier Simplest method; risk of paste spreading to eyes, other calves, or handler skin if not applied carefully; works only before horn bud attaches to skull
Hot Iron (Electric/Butane) 2–10 weeks Moderate with local anesthetic Electric or gas dehorning iron Cauterizes horn bud and blood vessels in one step; minimal bleeding; widely used and BQA-recommended method with sedation/local block
Tube / Scoop Dehorner 1–4 months Higher — tissue removal Barnes-type tube or scoop dehorner Physically removes horn bud and surrounding tissue; more bleeding risk; requires local anesthetic and ideally NSAID administration
Wire / Saw (Mature Cattle) 6+ months, adult cattle High — significant tissue trauma Obstetrical wire, saw, or specialized cutters Used for late or corrective dehorning; substantial bleeding risk, sinus exposure risk in older cattle; requires veterinary sedation, local block, and aftercare
Genetic Selection (Polled) N/A — no procedure needed None None required Eliminates the need for any dehorning procedure entirely; the only zero-pain, zero-cost-per-animal solution
Pain Management Is Not Optional — It's BQA Standard: The Beef Quality Assurance (BQA) program and most veterinary guidance now treat pain management as a required component of dehorning regardless of method or age, not an optional add-on. Local anesthetic block (cornual nerve block using lidocaine) prior to the procedure, combined with a systemic NSAID (such as meloxicam) for 24–72 hours post-procedure, significantly reduces the behavioral and physiological pain response, supports faster healing, and protects the growth performance of the calf during the recovery period. Producers performing dehorning without any pain management are increasingly out of step with both animal welfare standards and the documentation requirements of many beef quality and sustainability certification programs.

6. Handler Safety: What the Injury Data Shows

Beyond animal welfare and cost considerations, the original and most persistent argument for polled cattle is handler safety — and the available injury data consistently supports this concern, though the relationship between horns and injury risk is more nuanced than "horns equal danger."

  • Documented Injury Severity Differential: Agricultural injury surveillance data and workers' compensation claims analysis from cattle-handling operations consistently show that injuries involving horned cattle have a higher average severity (measured by lost work days, hospitalization rate, and injury classification) than injuries involving polled cattle of comparable size and temperament. Horn-related injuries disproportionately involve puncture wounds, lacerations requiring surgical repair, and orbital/facial injuries — categories that are rare in polled-cattle handling incidents, which more commonly involve blunt trauma from kicks, crushing against equipment, or being knocked down.
  • Herd-Mate Injury, Not Just Handler Injury: A frequently underestimated cost of horned cattle is horn-related injury between herd mates during normal dominance interactions, feeding competition, and breeding activity. Horned cattle in mixed groups cause measurably more carcass bruising (a direct economic loss at slaughter, as bruised tissue is trimmed and discounted), more hide damage (reducing hide value), and occasional serious injuries including blinding from horn contact during fighting. This herd-mate injury cost is separate from and additional to the handler safety consideration.
  • Facility-Related Injury Risk: A specific and often overlooked horn-related risk is cattle becoming physically caught or stuck in handling equipment, fencing, or feed bunks designed for polled cattle dimensions — horned cattle attempting to pass through headgates, feed barriers, or narrow alleyways sized for polled animals can become trapped, leading to panic, struggling injury, and sometimes requiring equipment modification or destruction to free the animal. This risk is highest in operations that have transitioned facilities for polled cattle but still occasionally handle horned animals.
  • The Confined Space Multiplier: Horn-related injury risk is not constant — it multiplies in confined spaces (chutes, trailers, narrow alleys) where handlers and other cattle cannot maintain safe distance from a horned animal's full range of motion. The same horned animal that poses minimal practical risk on open pasture becomes considerably more dangerous in a crowded loading chute or trailer, which is precisely where most cattle handling injuries are documented to occur.

7. Facility and Transport Implications

Horned cattle require specific facility design accommodations that polled cattle do not — and retrofitting existing polled-designed facilities for occasional horned cattle handling is a real cost that producers should factor into the horned-vs-polled decision.

  • Chute and Headgate Width: Standard squeeze chutes and headgates designed for the polled commercial cattle population may not provide adequate clearance for horned animals, risking horn entrapment, breakage, or facility damage. Horned-cattle-compatible facilities require wider headgate openings or specialized curved/scissor-style headgates designed to accommodate horns without trapping them.
  • Alleyway and Crowding Pen Spacing: Standard alleyway widths calibrated for polled cattle become tighter, higher-risk spaces when horned cattle are mixed in — reduced clearance increases the likelihood of horn-to-horn or horn-to-handler contact during the inherently higher-stress crowding and sorting process.
  • Trailer and Transport Density: Horned cattle require greater loading density allowances during transport compared to polled cattle of the same weight — packing horned cattle at standard polled-cattle stocking density increases bruising, fighting injury, and stress during transport. This effectively reduces the number of horned cattle that can be safely hauled per trailer trip, a real logistics and cost consideration for larger operations.
  • Feed Bunk and Mineral Feeder Competition: Horned cattle exert disproportionate dominance at shared feed and mineral resources compared to their actual body size — the horn itself functions as a more effective and longer-range dominance display and weapon than a polled animal's head alone, meaning horned cattle in mixed feeding situations can displace polled herd-mates more readily, affecting feed access equity across the group.

8. The Horned Cattle Market Discount

Sale barns, video auctions, and direct buyers across North America consistently apply a price discount to horned feeder and slaughter cattle compared to comparable polled or properly dehorned lots — a market reality that directly affects the economics of the polled-versus-horned decision for commercial producers.

Why Buyers Discount Horned Cattle: The market discount for horned cattle reflects rational buyer risk assessment, not arbitrary preference. Buyers purchasing feeder cattle for backgrounding or finishing know they will need to either dehorn the cattle themselves (incurring the procedure cost, labor, and growth-check risk discussed earlier) or manage the ongoing bruising, injury, and facility-compatibility costs of horned cattle through to slaughter. Feedlots specifically discount horned cattle because of documented higher bruising rates that directly reduce carcass value — bruised tissue must be trimmed at the packing plant, and heavily bruised carcasses can be downgraded. The discount is the market's way of pricing in these downstream costs and risks before they are realized, shifting that economic burden back to the seller at the point of sale.

9. Polled Availability by Breed

Breed Polled Status Notes
Angus Naturally polled — breed standard Polled has been a defining Angus characteristic for the entire history of the breed; horned Angus do not exist in registered populations
Hereford Both — Polled Hereford is a distinct recognized variety Traditional Hereford are horned; Polled Hereford was developed and recognized as a separate variety in the early 20th century and is now widely available
Brangus Naturally polled — inherited from Angus parentage The Angus contribution to the Brangus composite (5/8 Angus) carries the polled gene; registered Brangus are polled
Murray Grey Naturally polled — inherited from Angus parentage Polled status from the Angus side of the original cross; consistent breed standard
Santa Gertrudis Majority horned — polled lines limited The Shorthorn parentage (5/8) was traditionally horned; polled genetics exist in some seedstock lines but are not yet the breed majority
Shorthorn Both — Polled Shorthorn is an established variety Traditional Shorthorn are horned; Polled Shorthorn has been bred and selected for decades and is widely available
Charolais Both — increasing polled availability Historically predominantly horned; polled genetics have expanded significantly in North American Charolais seedstock over the past 20 years
Simmental Both — strong polled selection emphasis Modern North American Simmental breeding programs have heavily emphasized polled genetics; majority of registered bulls now polled or scurred
Scottish Highland Horned — breed standard Horns are a defining visual and functional breed characteristic; polled Highland would not meet breed standard for registration
Texas Longhorn Horned — defining breed characteristic Horn length and shape are the primary selection and show criteria for the breed; polled animals exist genetically but defeat the breed's purpose

10. Polled vs Horned Decision Chart

Polled vs Horned Cattle — Commercial Production Impact Score by Factor (0–100 Scale, Higher = Favors Polled)
Score reflects the relative commercial and welfare advantage of polled genetics over horned in each category for a typical North American commercial beef operation. Based on BQA guidance, sale barn pricing data, and agricultural injury surveillance research 2020–2025.
Handler Safety
92 — Significantly lower injury severity with polled cattle in confined handling
Eliminates Recurring Procedure Cost
88 — Polled genetics remove annual dehorning cost entirely
Carcass Bruising / Hide Damage Reduction
84 — Fewer herd-mate injuries; better hide and carcass value retention
Sale Barn / Market Price Premium
78 — Consistent $3–$8/cwt discount avoided on polled or dehorned lots
Facility Design Flexibility
74 — Standard equipment works without horn-specific modification
Transport Density / Logistics
68 — Higher safe stocking density per trailer load
Animal Welfare (No Procedure Pain)
90 — Zero procedure-associated pain or complication risk
Breed-Specific Trait Trade-off Risk
36 — Some heritage/horned breeds offer traits not replicated in polled alternatives

11. When Horned Genetics Still Make Sense

Despite the clear commercial and safety advantages of polled cattle, there remain legitimate, well-reasoned scenarios where horned genetics are the right choice for a specific operation — the decision should be evaluated honestly rather than treating polled as universally correct.

1

Heritage and Breed-Standard Preservation

For breeds where horns are a defining genetic and visual characteristic — Scottish Highland, Texas Longhorn, traditional Watusi, and certain heritage breed conservation programs — horns are not a flaw to be bred away but a core part of the breed's genetic identity and historical purpose. Producers raising these breeds for genetic conservation, heritage breed preservation, or breed-specific markets that value the traditional horned phenotype have a legitimate reason to maintain horned genetics despite the management trade-offs.

2

Predator Defense in High-Predation Range Environments

In operations with significant predator pressure (wolves, large cat populations, or extensive open range with minimal human oversight), some producers and range scientists report that horned cattle — particularly horned cows — show improved calf defense behavior against predators compared to polled cattle, since horns provide a functional weapon during predator confrontation. This advantage is most relevant in extensive western range operations with documented predator pressure and is less relevant in fenced, closely managed pasture systems.

3

Specialty and Niche Marketing Value

Texas Longhorn, Highland, and Watusi cattle command premium prices and strong demand in specific niche markets — agri-tourism, photography and event rental, breeding stock for hobby and heritage operations, and direct-to-consumer beef marketing where the distinctive horned appearance is itself a marketing asset. For producers serving these markets, the horns are not a cost to be managed away but a core product feature driving premium revenue that more than offsets the additional handling and facility considerations.

4

Maternal Trait Packages Not Yet Fully Replicated in Polled Lines

In some breeds and specific bloodlines, certain valuable maternal or production traits remain more concentrated in horned genetic lines simply due to historical breeding emphasis — not because horns and the trait are biologically linked, but because selection pressure for the trait happened to occur predominantly within horned subpopulations. In these specific cases, careful crossbreeding (using a polled sire on a valuable horned-line dam) captures the desired traits in the F1 generation while introducing polled genetics for subsequent generations — a practical bridge strategy rather than a permanent commitment to horned genetics.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is it better to buy a polled bull or dehorn a horned bull's calves?
For the vast majority of commercial operations, purchasing a polled (ideally homozygous polled, DNA-verified) bull is the better long-term economic and welfare decision compared to continuing to dehorn calves from horned genetics generation after generation. The reasoning is straightforward: polled bulls are typically available at price parity with horned bulls of comparable EPDs and quality within most major breeds — there is usually no purchase price premium for choosing polled, meaning the decision costs nothing extra upfront. Using a homozygous polled bull on any cow (horned or otherwise) guarantees 100% polled calves, immediately eliminating the dehorning procedure, its cost ($15-$40/head), labor time, growth-check risk, and welfare burden for the entire calf crop going forward. Over a bull's typical 3-4 year breeding life producing 80-120 calves, this represents $1,200-$4,800 in avoided dehorning costs from a single bull purchase decision that cost no more than the horned alternative. The only scenario where continuing to dehorn makes more sense is a short-term situation — for example, an operation winding down or selling within 1-2 years where the multi-generation genetic transition benefit would not be realized, or a situation where a specific horned bull offers genetic merit (EPDs, specific bloodline traits) so superior that no comparable polled option exists. For an ongoing commercial operation with a normal multi-year planning horizon, selecting polled genetics in bull purchasing decisions is close to a strictly dominant strategy.
At what age should calves be dehorned for the least stress?
The general veterinary and animal welfare consensus is that earlier dehorning, performed before the horn bud attaches to the skull (typically before 2-3 months of age in most breeds), causes substantially less pain, bleeding, and complication risk than dehorning performed on older calves or mature cattle. In the first 1-2 weeks of life, the horn bud is a small, mobile, unattached structure that can be removed or chemically destroyed (via caustic paste) with minimal tissue trauma, no significant bleeding, and rapid healing — this is the lowest-stress window available. From approximately 2 weeks to 2-3 months, the horn bud is beginning to attach to the frontal bone but has not yet fused with the skull or developed the sinus connection present in older cattle — hot-iron dehorning during this window, performed with local anesthetic block and NSAID pain management, remains a comparatively low-complication procedure. Once a calf reaches approximately 3-4 months and beyond, the horn has begun fusing to the skull and developing a connection to the frontal sinus — dehorning at this stage and later involves substantially more tissue trauma, bleeding risk, and sinus exposure risk (which can lead to serious infection if not managed properly), requiring more intensive veterinary involvement, sedation, and aftercare. The clear practical recommendation: if dehorning is necessary, plan to perform the procedure within the first 2-3 months of life — ideally in the first few weeks — using an appropriate method for the calf's specific age, with local anesthetic block and systemic NSAID pain management in all cases regardless of age. Waiting until weaning or yearling age to dehorn, a practice that does still occur in some operations, substantially increases the welfare burden, complication risk, and growth-check impact of the procedure.
Do horned cattle sell for less money than polled cattle?
Yes — sale barn data, video auction records, and direct buyer feedback consistently document a price discount applied to horned feeder and slaughter cattle compared to comparable polled or properly dehorned lots, typically in the range of $3-$8 per hundredweight (cwt), though the exact discount varies by region, season, cattle class, and the specific buyer's downstream plans for the cattle. This discount reflects rational buyer economics rather than arbitrary preference: a buyer purchasing horned feeder cattle for backgrounding or finishing anticipates either the cost and labor of dehorning the cattle themselves, or the ongoing costs of managing horned cattle through to slaughter — including higher documented rates of carcass bruising (which directly reduces carcass value through trimming and potential downgrading), higher hide damage rates (reducing hide value), increased handling time and labor, and the facility accommodation needs discussed earlier in this guide. On a 550-lb feeder steer, an $5/cwt discount represents approximately $27.50 in reduced sale value — a relatively modest per-head amount that becomes economically significant when multiplied across an entire calf crop or load of feeder cattle sold annually. Beyond the direct price discount, horned cattle in some sale formats may also experience reduced buyer interest (fewer bidders willing to compete for horned lots), which can compound the price impact beyond the stated discount alone. For commercial cow-calf producers selling weaned calves, this market reality is one of the most direct and easily quantifiable financial arguments for transitioning toward polled genetics or consistently dehorning calves before sale.
Can two polled cattle ever produce a horned calf?
Yes — two polled cattle can produce a horned calf, but only under a specific genetic circumstance: when both parents are heterozygous polled (carrying one polled allele and one horned allele, genotype Pp) rather than homozygous polled (carrying two polled alleles, genotype PP). Because the polled allele is dominant, a Pp x Pp mating follows standard Mendelian inheritance: approximately 25% of offspring will be homozygous polled (PP), 50% will be heterozygous polled (Pp) and visually polled but still carrying the horned allele, and 25% will be homozygous horned (pp) and will grow horns despite both parents appearing polled. This is precisely why DNA testing for polled zygosity is valuable for breeders — a producer who assumes that "both parents are polled, so all calves will be polled" can be caught off guard when 1 in 4 calves grows horns from a heterozygous-by-heterozygous mating. This scenario is most likely to occur in breeds or bloodlines where polled genetics were introduced relatively recently (and have not yet been bred to homozygosity throughout the population) or in crossbreeding programs combining polled and horned breed influences. To guarantee 100% polled calves with certainty, at least one parent needs to be confirmed homozygous polled (PP) through DNA testing — when this is the case, every calf receives at least one polled allele from that parent and will be visually polled, regardless of the other parent's genotype. Producers building a long-term polled breeding program should prioritize identifying and using homozygous polled sires specifically to avoid this heterozygous-mating surprise.
Is dehorning cattle considered inhumane?
Dehorning performed without any pain management is increasingly viewed as falling short of acceptable animal welfare standards by veterinary organizations, the Beef Quality Assurance (BQA) program, and many beef sustainability and certification programs — but dehorning performed with appropriate pain management protocols (local anesthetic nerve block prior to the procedure plus systemic NSAID pain relief for 24-72 hours afterward) is widely considered an acceptable and humane management practice when performed at an appropriately young age using a proper technique. The animal welfare science is clear that dehorning causes measurable pain and stress regardless of method, with the degree of welfare impact directly related to three factors: the calf's age at the time of procedure (younger is consistently less traumatic), the specific method used (chemical paste and hot-iron cautery in very young calves generally show better welfare outcomes than physical tissue removal in older animals), and whether appropriate pain management is provided before, during, and after the procedure. This is precisely why current veterinary and BQA guidance treats local anesthetic and NSAID administration as a required standard of care rather than an optional extra — dehorning without any pain management, particularly in older calves or cattle, is the practice most likely to be characterized as inhumane by veterinary and animal welfare standards. The most ethically and economically optimal solution, increasingly recognized across the cattle industry, is to avoid the need for dehorning altogether through deliberate selection of polled genetics in breeding programs — eliminating both the welfare question and the recurring procedure cost simultaneously. For operations that must dehorn due to existing horned genetics or specific breed considerations, performing the procedure as early as possible with full pain management protocol represents current best practice and is not generally characterized as inhumane when done correctly.